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	''Translation Jessie Munro 2005~~, still to be checked~~.''		''Translation Jessie Munro 2005.''

	:Very dear Father		:Very dear Father

	:After letting such a long time pass without writing to you, it would no doubt be difficult to find some excuse to restore me in your good graces. However, since I hold dear your affection in a quite special way, I don’t wish to leave it neglected into the future in order to show you a gratitude that will endure, I dare to hope, beyond this brief life. But very dear Father, would I have forgotten you? Would I have become ungrateful? Oh, no! my heart never felt ingratitude. While following the passions of youth, this heart never wished to let itself slip in generosity of spirit. So, our holy religion, far from rendering it less sensitive, will purify these fortunate dispositions. Oh! Let it please God that it may be sufficiently easy to overcome our bad leanings; how sweet it is to express to a true friend the feelings of affection for him which fill my being!		;[1]:After letting such a long time pass without writing to you, it would no doubt be difficult to find some excuse to restore me in your good graces. However, since I hold dear your affection in a quite special way, I don’t wish to leave it neglected into the future in order to show you a gratitude that will endure, I dare to hope, beyond this brief life. But very dear Father, would I have forgotten you? Would I have become ungrateful? Oh, no! my heart never felt ingratitude. While following the passions of youth, this heart never wished to let itself slip in generosity of spirit. So, our holy religion, far from rendering it less sensitive, will purify these fortunate dispositions. Oh! Let it please God that it may be sufficiently easy to overcome our bad leanings; how sweet it is to express to a true friend the feelings of affection for him which fill my being!

	:So I begin to write to you today, very dear Father, as well as to my other benefactors. If you don’t count three letters addressed to our Superior General, two of which were even dragged forth out of a pressing obligation, you will know that I have only managed to produce one missive, to the most loving as to the most tenderly loved of the Fathers.		;[2]:So I begin to write to you today, very dear Father, as well as to my other benefactors. If you don’t count three letters addressed to our Superior General, two of which were even dragged forth out of a pressing obligation, you will know that I have only managed to produce one missive, to the most loving as to the most tenderly loved of the Fathers. In that, I have followed my former principle of examining maturely each new situation where God has caused me to be, before giving sign of life. By those means, I let the judgements come to me that it pleases the divine goodness to allow, and I don’t hurt anyone. Now, living in the midst of a society in constant change and placed between two opposite poles, the Fathers and the Brothers, I sometimes find relationships a little painful. This sea voyage, so hard-crossed, and yet of happy memory, has left behind a trail of difficulties only resignation will be able to overcome. If you add to that the cares of our infirmary, which seems to stem the torrent that was ready to engulf us, you will have no trouble in believing that the demon will not leave me a day of peace. But the faithful virgin, my tender Mother, who brought us safe to port after several months of navigation in the first trip, will also lead the barque in this great and last voyage. After all, I have good reason to rejoice in filling a post where Mary has placed me herself, and where I can work securely in the matter of my salvation. You see, very dear Father, that I rely a lot on the interest that you show me, to be speaking to you with such frankness. That’s to say to you that I have an earned right to your fervent prayers.

	:~~In that~~, I have ~~followed my former principle of examining maturely each new situation where God has caused me to be~~, ~~before giving sign of life~~. ~~By those means~~, ~~I let~~ the ~~judgements come~~ to ~~me that it pleases the divine goodness~~ to ~~allow~~, and ~~I don’t hurt anyone. Now, living~~ in ~~the midst of a society in constant change and placed between two opposite poles, the Fathers and the Brothers, I sometimes find relationships a little painful~~. ~~This sea voyage~~, ~~so hard-crossed~~, and ~~yet of happy memory,~~ has ~~left behind a trail~~ of ~~difficulties only resignation~~ will ~~be able to overcome. If you add to that~~ the ~~cares~~ of ~~our infirmary, which seems to stem the torrent that was ready to engulf us, you~~ will ~~have no trouble~~ in ~~believing that~~ the ~~demon will not leave me a day~~ of ~~peace. But~~ the ~~faithful virgin~~, ~~my tender Mother, who brought us safe to port after several months of navigation~~ in the ~~first trip~~, ~~will also lead the barque in this great and last vopyage~~. ~~After all, I have good reason to rejoice~~ in ~~filling a post where Mary has placed me herself, and where~~ I ~~can work securely in~~ the ~~matter~~ of my salvation. You see, very dear Father, that I rely a lot on the interest that you show me, to be speaking to you with such frankness. That’s to say to you that I have an earned right to your fervent prayers.		;[3]:Your last letter brought consoling balm to my soul. How happy I am, I exclaimed, to have left behind in France three such generous-hearted, unselfish friends. So, the only thing to which I hold most strongly in this world is to show them my gratitude, and never to sadden them in any way whatsoever. Yes, our very Reverend Father, good Father Poupinel and excellent Father Montargis are like three Mothers that Mary has given to one of her children. I will do my utmost towards softening the inseparable difficulties of their numerous works. I will let nothing slip in working for the success of the work for which I am sent by them, in the way my Superiors will want, well persuaded (p. 3) that in that I will be doing the will of God.

	:~~Your last letter brought consoling balm to my soul. How happy~~ I am, ~~I exclaimed~~, to have ~~left behind in France three such generous-hearted~~, ~~unselfish friends. So~~, the ~~only thing to which I hold most strongly in this world is to show them my gratitude~~, ~~and never to sadden them in any way whatsoever~~. ~~Yes~~, ~~our very Reverend Father~~, good Father ~~Poupinel and excellent Father Montargis are like three Mothers that Mary~~ has ~~given~~ to ~~one of her children. I~~ will ~~do my utmost towards softening~~ the ~~inseparable difficulties~~ of ~~their numerous works~~. ~~I will let nothing slip in working for the success of the~~ work ~~for which I am sent by them~~, in the ~~way my Superiors will want, well persuaded (p. 3)~~ that ~~in that I will be doing the will of God~~.		;[4]:I now pass, very reverend Father, on to temporal affairs, which in a mission always contribute powerfully to the conversion of peoples. You will have felt, like His Lordship, the effects, doubtless very hard, of an unfortunate situation. If, as I have every reason to hope, that good Father Epalle has destroyed all the worrisome doubts as to the future, the great sacrifice that you will have made will have restored calm to spirits while at the same time reassuring the progress of your interesting Mission. Because, you need to be utterly convinced, it’s your work that you are upholding, the workers that you have sent are not working only for themselves.

	:~~I now pass~~, ~~very reverend Father~~, ~~on to temporal affairs, which in a mission always contribute powerfully to the conversion of peoples~~. You will ~~have felt, like His Lordship,~~ the ~~effects, doubtless very hard,~~ of ~~an unfortunate situation. If, as~~ I ~~have every reason~~ to ~~hopee~~, ~~that good Father Epalle has destroyed all the worrisome doubts as~~ to ~~the future, the great scarifice~~ that you ~~will have made will have restored calm~~ to ~~spirits while at the same time reassuring the progress of your interesting Mission~~. ~~Because, you need~~ to ~~be utterly convinced, it’s your work that you are upholding, the workers that you have sent are not working only for themselves~~.		;[5]:You will find enclosed a list of items to have purchased from Monsieur Marc, concerning our printery, bindery workshops etc. All that I request is or will be absolutely essential within 12 or 15 months. You will see the duplicate of this list in a letter I am writing to good Mr Marc, telling him to follow any small alterations that you might make to it. I add this comment to show my dependence.

	:~~You~~ will ~~find enclosed a list of items~~ to ~~have purchased from Monsieur~~ Marc, ~~concerning our printery~~, ~~bindery workshops etc. All that I~~ request ~~is or will be absolutely essential within 12 or 15 months~~. ~~You will see the duplicate of this list in a letter~~ I am ~~writing~~ to ~~good Mr Marc~~, ~~telling him to follow any small alterations that you might make to it. I add this comment to show~~ my ~~dependence~~.		;[6]:His Lordship will write shortly to Messieurs Grouit, Leveneur [Leherpeur?], Poisson and Marc, all living in your lovely Normandy. As for me, allow me, very dear Father, to refuse you the request you made of me. I am too wretched to feature in such a correspondence, and moreover my feeble range of knowledge would soon betray me.

	:~~His Lordship will write shortly to Messieurs Grouit~~, ~~Leveneur~~ [~~Leherpeur?~~], Poisson ~~and~~ Marc, ~~all living in your lovely Normandy. As for me, allow me, very dear Father, to refuse you~~ the ~~request you made~~ of ~~me. I am too wretched to feature~~ in ~~such a correspondence, and moreover my feeble range of knowledge would soon betray me~~.		;[7]:As I have told you, I am putting myself [en frais de lettres] this time. I am carrying on to write, without drawing breath, to Messrs Poisson, Marc, Montargis and the Mother Superior of the Convent of the Visitation in Caen.

	~~:As I have told you, I am putting myself~~ [~~en frais de lettres~~] ~~this time. I am carrying on to write, without drawing breath, to Messrs Poisson, Marc, Montargis and the Mother Superior of the Convent of the Visitation in Caen.~~		;[8]:With greatest esteem and devotion,
			:::Your very humble and obedient son in J.C.
	::With greatest esteem and devotion,		::::''Yvert''
	::Your very humble and obedient son in J.C.
	::''Yvert''

			;[9]: Kororareka, 7 January 1843
	:Please pass on my respects to our Very Rev Father and to the good Fathers I had the honour of seeing in Lyon.		:Please pass on my respects to our Very Rev Father and to the good Fathers I had the honour of seeing in Lyon.

	''Translation notes by Dr Thoron Hollard, with Robin Anderson, Wellington 14/11/03		''Translation notes by Dr Thoron Hollard, with Robin Anderson, Wellington 14/11/03

	Work in progress. Marty Vreede, senior lecturer in printing at Unitech in Wanganui, is an expert in traditional printing processes and presses. He will be able to help complete this translation. (Jessie Munro)''[~~page 1~~]		Work in progress. Marty Vreede, senior lecturer in printing at Unitech in Wanganui, is an expert in traditional printing processes and presses. He will be able to help complete this translation. (Jessie Munro)''

			;[10]: New Zeland. Kororareka (Bay of Islands) 25 December 1842
			::: Things needed for printing and binding

	*1o une presse raisin – presumably a small printing press (see 4 below), sans encrier = without ink trough...		*1o une presse raisin – presumably a small printing press (see 4 below), sans encrier = without ink trough...

Merv: /* Doc. 231, 7 January 1843, Yvert to Poupinel, Kororareka */

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	:Your last letter brought consoling balm to my soul. How happy I am, I exclaimed, to have left behind in France three such generous-hearted, unselfish friends. So, the only thing to which I hold most strongly in this world is to show them my gratitude, and never to sadden them in any way whatsoever. Yes, our very Reverend Father, good Father Poupinel and excellent Father Montargis are like three Mothers that Mary has given to one of her children. I will do my utmost towards softening the inseparable difficulties of their numerous works. I will let nothing slip in working for the success of the work for which I am sent by them, in the way my Superiors will want, well persuaded (p. 3) that in that I will be doing the will of God.		:Your last letter brought consoling balm to my soul. How happy I am, I exclaimed, to have left behind in France three such generous-hearted, unselfish friends. So, the only thing to which I hold most strongly in this world is to show them my gratitude, and never to sadden them in any way whatsoever. Yes, our very Reverend Father, good Father Poupinel and excellent Father Montargis are like three Mothers that Mary has given to one of her children. I will do my utmost towards softening the inseparable difficulties of their numerous works. I will let nothing slip in working for the success of the work for which I am sent by them, in the way my Superiors will want, well persuaded (p. 3) that in that I will be doing the will of God.
	I now pass, very reverend Father, on to temporal affairs, which in a mission always contribute powerfully to the conversion of peoples. You will have felt, like His Lordship, the effects, doubtless very hard, of an unfortunate situation. If, as I have every reason to hopee, that good Father Epalle has destroyed all the worrisome doubts as to the future, the great scarifice that you will have made will have restored calm to spirits while at the same time reassuring the progress of your interesting Mission. Because, you need to be utterly convinced, it’s your work that you are upholding, the workers that you have sent are not working only for themselves.
			:I now pass, very reverend Father, on to temporal affairs, which in a mission always contribute powerfully to the conversion of peoples. You will have felt, like His Lordship, the effects, doubtless very hard, of an unfortunate situation. If, as I have every reason to hopee, that good Father Epalle has destroyed all the worrisome doubts as to the future, the great scarifice that you will have made will have restored calm to spirits while at the same time reassuring the progress of your interesting Mission. Because, you need to be utterly convinced, it’s your work that you are upholding, the workers that you have sent are not working only for themselves.

	:You will find enclosed a list of items to have purchased from Monsieur Marc, concerning our printery, bindery workshops etc. All that I request is or will be absolutely essential within 12 or 15 months. You will see the duplicate of this list in a letter I am writing to good Mr Marc, telling him to follow any small alterations that you might make to it. I add this comment to show my dependence.		:You will find enclosed a list of items to have purchased from Monsieur Marc, concerning our printery, bindery workshops etc. All that I request is or will be absolutely essential within 12 or 15 months. You will see the duplicate of this list in a letter I am writing to good Mr Marc, telling him to follow any small alterations that you might make to it. I add this comment to show my dependence.

Merv at 03:26, 20 March 2008

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	''Translation Jessie Munro 2005, still to be checked.''		''Translation Jessie Munro 2005, still to be checked.''

	Very dear Father		:Very dear Father

	After letting such a long time pass without writing to you, it would no doubt be difficult to find some excuse to restore me in your good graces. However, since I hold dear your affection in a quite special way, I don’t wish to leave it neglected into the future in order to show you a gratitude that will endure, I dare to hope, beyond this brief life. But very dear Father, would I have forgotten you? Would I have become ungrateful? Oh, no! my heart never felt ingratitude. While following the passions of youth, this heart never wished to let itself slip in generosity of spirit. So, our holy religion, far from rendering it less sensitive, will purify these fortunate dispositions. Oh! Let it please God that it may be sufficiently easy to overcome our bad leanings; how sweet it is to express to a true friend the feelings of affection for him which fill my being!		:After letting such a long time pass without writing to you, it would no doubt be difficult to find some excuse to restore me in your good graces. However, since I hold dear your affection in a quite special way, I don’t wish to leave it neglected into the future in order to show you a gratitude that will endure, I dare to hope, beyond this brief life. But very dear Father, would I have forgotten you? Would I have become ungrateful? Oh, no! my heart never felt ingratitude. While following the passions of youth, this heart never wished to let itself slip in generosity of spirit. So, our holy religion, far from rendering it less sensitive, will purify these fortunate dispositions. Oh! Let it please God that it may be sufficiently easy to overcome our bad leanings; how sweet it is to express to a true friend the feelings of affection for him which fill my being!

	So I begin to write to you today, very dear Father, as well as to my other benefactors. If you don’t count three letters addressed to our Superior General, two of which were even dragged forth out of a pressing obligation, you will know that I have only managed to produce one missive, to the most loving as to the most tenderly loved of the Fathers.		:So I begin to write to you today, very dear Father, as well as to my other benefactors. If you don’t count three letters addressed to our Superior General, two of which were even dragged forth out of a pressing obligation, you will know that I have only managed to produce one missive, to the most loving as to the most tenderly loved of the Fathers.

	In that, I have followed my former principle of examining maturely each new situation where God has caused me to be, before giving sign of life. By those means, I let the judgements come to me that it pleases the divine goodness to allow, and I don’t hurt anyone. Now, living in the midst of a society in constant change and placed between two opposite poles, the Fathers and the Brothers, I sometimes find relationships a little painful. This sea voyage, so hard-crossed, and yet of happy memory, has left behind a trail of difficulties only resignation will be able to overcome. If you add to that the cares of our infirmary, which seems to stem the torrent that was ready to engulf us, you will have no trouble in believing that the demon will not leave me a day of peace. But the faithful virgin, my tender Mother, who brought us safe to port after several months of navigation in the first trip, will also lead the barque in this great and last vopyage. After all, I have good reason to rejoice in filling a post where Mary has placed me herself, and where I can work securely in the matter of my salvation. You see, very dear Father, that I rely a lot on the interest that you show me, to be speaking to you with such frankness. That’s to say to you that I have an earned right to your fervent prayers.		:In that, I have followed my former principle of examining maturely each new situation where God has caused me to be, before giving sign of life. By those means, I let the judgements come to me that it pleases the divine goodness to allow, and I don’t hurt anyone. Now, living in the midst of a society in constant change and placed between two opposite poles, the Fathers and the Brothers, I sometimes find relationships a little painful. This sea voyage, so hard-crossed, and yet of happy memory, has left behind a trail of difficulties only resignation will be able to overcome. If you add to that the cares of our infirmary, which seems to stem the torrent that was ready to engulf us, you will have no trouble in believing that the demon will not leave me a day of peace. But the faithful virgin, my tender Mother, who brought us safe to port after several months of navigation in the first trip, will also lead the barque in this great and last vopyage. After all, I have good reason to rejoice in filling a post where Mary has placed me herself, and where I can work securely in the matter of my salvation. You see, very dear Father, that I rely a lot on the interest that you show me, to be speaking to you with such frankness. That’s to say to you that I have an earned right to your fervent prayers.
	Your last letter brought consoling balm to my soul. How happy I am, I exclaimed, to have left behind in France three such generous-hearted, unselfish friends. So, the only thing to which I hold most strongly in this world is to show them my gratitude, and never to sadden them in any way whatsoever. Yes, our very Reverend Father, good Father Poupinel and excellent Father Montargis are like three Mothers that Mary has given to one of her children. I will do my utmost towards softening the inseparable difficulties of their numerous works. I will let nothing slip in working for the success of the work for which I am sent by them, in the way my Superiors will want, well persuaded (p. 3) that in that I will be doing the will of God.
			:Your last letter brought consoling balm to my soul. How happy I am, I exclaimed, to have left behind in France three such generous-hearted, unselfish friends. So, the only thing to which I hold most strongly in this world is to show them my gratitude, and never to sadden them in any way whatsoever. Yes, our very Reverend Father, good Father Poupinel and excellent Father Montargis are like three Mothers that Mary has given to one of her children. I will do my utmost towards softening the inseparable difficulties of their numerous works. I will let nothing slip in working for the success of the work for which I am sent by them, in the way my Superiors will want, well persuaded (p. 3) that in that I will be doing the will of God.
	I now pass, very reverend Father, on to temporal affairs, which in a mission always contribute powerfully to the conversion of peoples. You will have felt, like His Lordship, the effects, doubtless very hard, of an unfortunate situation. If, as I have every reason to hopee, that good Father Epalle has destroyed all the worrisome doubts as to the future, the great scarifice that you will have made will have restored calm to spirits while at the same time reassuring the progress of your interesting Mission. Because, you need to be utterly convinced, it’s your work that you are upholding, the workers that you have sent are not working only for themselves.		I now pass, very reverend Father, on to temporal affairs, which in a mission always contribute powerfully to the conversion of peoples. You will have felt, like His Lordship, the effects, doubtless very hard, of an unfortunate situation. If, as I have every reason to hopee, that good Father Epalle has destroyed all the worrisome doubts as to the future, the great scarifice that you will have made will have restored calm to spirits while at the same time reassuring the progress of your interesting Mission. Because, you need to be utterly convinced, it’s your work that you are upholding, the workers that you have sent are not working only for themselves.
	You will find enclosed a list of items to have purchased from Monsieur Marc, concerning our printery, bindery workshops etc. All that I request is or will be absolutely essential within 12 or 15 months. You will see the duplicate of this list in a letter I am writing to good Mr Marc, telling him to follow any small alterations that you might make to it. I add this comment to show my dependence.

	His Lordship will write shortly to Messieurs Grouit, Leveneur [Leherpeur?], Poisson and Marc, all living in your lovely Normandy. As for me, allow me, very dear Father, to refuse you the request you made of me. I am too wretched to feature in such a correspondence, and moreover my feeble range of knowledge would soon betray me.		:You will find enclosed a list of items to have purchased from Monsieur Marc, concerning our printery, bindery workshops etc. All that I request is or will be absolutely essential within 12 or 15 months. You will see the duplicate of this list in a letter I am writing to good Mr Marc, telling him to follow any small alterations that you might make to it. I add this comment to show my dependence.
	As I have told you, I am putting myself [en frais de lettres] this time. I am carrying on to write, without drawing breath, to Messrs Poisson, Marc, Montargis and the Mother Superior of the Convent of the Visitation in Caen.
			:His Lordship will write shortly to Messieurs Grouit, Leveneur [Leherpeur?], Poisson and Marc, all living in your lovely Normandy. As for me, allow me, very dear Father, to refuse you the request you made of me. I am too wretched to feature in such a correspondence, and moreover my feeble range of knowledge would soon betray me.

			:As I have told you, I am putting myself [en frais de lettres] this time. I am carrying on to write, without drawing breath, to Messrs Poisson, Marc, Montargis and the Mother Superior of the Convent of the Visitation in Caen.

	:With greatest esteem and devotion,		::With greatest esteem and devotion,
	:Your very humble and obedient son in J.C.		::Your very humble and obedient son in J.C.
	:''Yvert''		::''Yvert''

	Please pass on my respects to our Very Rev Father and to the good Fathers I had the honour of seeing in Lyon.		:Please pass on my respects to our Very Rev Father and to the good Fathers I had the honour of seeing in Lyon.

	''Translation notes by Dr Thoron Hollard, with Robin Anderson, Wellington 14/11/03		''Translation notes by Dr Thoron Hollard, with Robin Anderson, Wellington 14/11/03
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	:Please pass on my respects to our Very Rev Father and to the good Fathers I had the honour of seeing in Lyon.		:Please pass on my respects to our Very Rev Father and to the good Fathers I had the honour of seeing in Lyon.

	''Translation notes by Dr Thoron Hollard, with Robin Anderson, Wellington 14/11/03		''Translation notes by Dr Thoron Hollard, with Robin Anderson, Wellington 14/11/03''

	Work in progress. Marty Vreede, senior lecturer in printing at Unitech in Wanganui, is an expert in traditional printing processes and presses. He will be able to help complete this translation. (Jessie Munro)''		''Work in progress. Marty Vreede, senior lecturer in printing at Unitech in Wanganui, is an expert in traditional printing processes and presses. He will be able to help complete this translation. (Jessie Munro)''

	;[10]: New Zeland. Kororareka (Bay of Islands) 25 December 1842		;[10]: New Zeland. Kororareka (Bay of Islands) 25 December 1842
	::: Things needed for printing and binding		::: Things needed for printing and binding

	*1o une presse raisin – presumably a small printing press (see 4 below), sans encrier = without ink trough...		;[11]:1o une presse raisin – presumably a small printing press (see 4 below), sans encrier = without ink trough...

	*3o 3000 reams of papier carré (not ‘cané’ as I thought – there are 2 kinds of r in the handwriting in the document I realise)= demy format printing paper. Collins gives dimensions as 17 1/2 x 22 1/2 ins (or 444.5 x 571.5mm) Collé may mean it is a thicker paper or may refer to some sort of coating – we aren’t sure.		;[13]:3o 3000 reams of papier carré (not ‘cané’ as I thought – there are 2 kinds of r in the handwriting in the document I realise)= demy format printing paper. Collins gives dimensions as 17 1/2 x 22 1/2 ins (or 444.5 x 571.5mm) Collé may mean it is a thicker paper or may refer to some sort of coating – we aren’t sure.

	*4o 50 reams of papier raisin = 50 x 65cm (approx. = royal) [so-named because of its watermark – Petit Robert)		;[14]:4o 50 reams of papier raisin = 50 x 65cm (approx. = royal) [so-named because of its watermark – Petit Robert)

	*6o peaux unies – plain leather (as opposed to coloured)		;[16]:6o peaux unies – plain leather (as opposed to coloured)

	*11o the gilding tools have a sort of wheel bit but we don’t know exactly how to describe this		;[21]:11o the gilding tools have a sort of wheel bit but we don’t know exactly how to describe this

	*14o vignettes could either refer to illustrations or ornamental borders. However, bordures referred to later on (84).		;[24]:14o vignettes could either refer to illustrations or ornamental borders. However, bordures referred to later on (84).

	*15o lettres ombrées et armées = (presumably) shaded [clear centre but shaded on one side?] and strengthened/thickened?		;[25]:15o lettres ombrées et armées = (presumably) shaded [clear centre but shaded on one side?] and strengthened/thickened?
	:no 28 petit romain = bourgeois (type) = approx 9pt		::no 28 petit romain = bourgeois (type) = approx 9pt
	:no 31 Egyptiennes = Egyptian = having square slab serifs [Robin can show you an example.]		::no 31 Egyptiennes = Egyptian = having square slab serifs [Robin can show you an example.]
	:[on near-duplicate copy] no 59 gaillarde = brevier = approx 8pt		::[on near-duplicate copy] no 59 gaillarde = brevier = approx 8pt
	:no 59 allongées = extended (down) = thin letters		::no 59 allongées = extended (down) = thin letters

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